Discussions, incl. FW Lawvere — Freyd's natural numbers, arithmetic in topos, "bad infinity" (contd.)

30:00 I can't count. Yes, of course. 1973. His name is Brian Josephson. Oh, Josephson. Oh, gosh, Josephson. I really missed something here. Oh, dear. He came to the ANSA meeting. I looked up his website. Yeah. Even though he's a professor of physics at Cambridge. This website is nothing but voodoo science. Yes, I know, I know. Maybe there's... He comes along, he's... Maybe there's... Whatever. He supports this anchor, this Alternative Natural Philosophy Association thing, which is all these people like Kaufman, like Raptus, and all these people, not all these anti-racial

32:30 things either. It's crazy. It's highly political. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Nazis can do it.

35:00 Yes, yes, yes. No, it can be married to anti-science in a remarkably deep way. The impression of Joseph was extreme, yes, that's fine, I would love that, but you won't get exposure on the train, possibly to read, depending on which train you get, which is why I want you to ring me up when you know I'll meet you, but I don't worry, I'll make sure you have my stress as well as backup in case, okay.

45:00 He's actually originally from Belgium, Belgian ancestry, although Kate did his last book to him, the words to Bill over there, for his genius and his kindness of art, which is a very...

50:00 Do I have to pick something else up? No, no, no, I have another row. A secret row, much, much, much cleverer. If you take the signs, it's always good. It's always good, yes. You've become the center. I made a photocopy of your very interesting brochure about the fighting in 1944. I've got it here, I think I've got to return it to you. But, in fact, I was showing it to you, there's one... There's one gentleman here at the meeting, Miles Tierney, who's actually a colleague of Bill's. They did some very important work together as young men, you know, 30, 35 years ago now.

52:30 They did some very, very important mathematical work together. But he, you know, he's somewhat older than Bill. He was actually in the Battle of the Bulge as a young man. He's about, what, he's 80 now. He was 19 at the time. So it's really just a forest road, isn't it? It's a very, very good way of doing that. This is what I always think of as the Ardennes as being like these forest roads. It's very nice, isn't it? Quite interesting. We still use the word, or used to use the word in English to mean, although it's a French word, it's an old English word for forest, for wood as well. It's in Shakespeare. You know, Shakespeare talks about Arden. Arden is the green wood. Arden? Yes, that's in the forest of Arden, which of course is really... If you see the old canyon, that's a nature reservoir. It's the lungs of Belgium at this time, because there is only forest, and it's protected by the government.

55:00 I've been through that once. We are just on the side. Just on the side. It is 5 kilometers, 10 kilometers. Going to wait, going through. He could wait. When I came it was 20 kilometers. That's tough.