Panel Discussion (contd.)
Recorded at From Computation to Machine Intelligence - Turing's Legacy, OUDCE Philosophy Weekend, Rewley House, Oxford University (2000), featuring Roger Penrose, Andrew Hodges, Michael Lockwood, Donald Gillies. From the Michael Wright Collection, held by the Archive Trust for Research in Mathematical Sciences & Philosophy.
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0:00 We've got to have consciousness. What you're saying is that numbers are more like problems than they are like... There are many different fields of study in the field of mathematics, physics, geometry, algebra, mathematics, physics, geometry, algebra, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, geometry, mathematics, physics, I don't agree with that. We're the charlatans. We're people taking over. I don't agree with that. We're the charlatans. We're people taking over. I don't agree with that. We're the charlatans. We're people taking over. I thought that you had a really good point. I think it is difficult for mathematicians to think outside the frame of the box. I think, particularly of course, when you've actually developed, when you've actually developed all of this stuff in, it's going to be a really hard to see. Yeah, well, it's definitely most of the brain cells. But the point is, they're in. It may be that they're in. No, I'm not saying that. Well, that's another point. It's like making a wall. Well, when I say a wall, it's reviewing them. I mean, one might even say God's industry. Consciousness industry. Obviously consciousness is related to God. It is the same sort of thing as what we're really all taught. Future industry.
2:30 They have to believe that semantic... this is what I meant by saying that there is a really good thing about writing in the book. It comes up from inside the work once you've got brains or other complex systems. Once the world has become complex enough to grow hairs, then semantic concepts arise. Well, we could call the theory that it was always there, but you know, I thought it was always exactly what he did. I thought there was any other course at that time, even beyond IELTS. I'm sorry, I don't know what you're talking about. But he did certainly do. Yes, you're right, he did believe it. But the truth of the matter, will it function as much? Isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, There are a lot of things that we can learn from each other, and we can learn from each other, and we can learn from each other, and we can learn from each other,
5:00 Which all of which I agree with, which I think all of which you can do. The kinds of medical medicine, you know, the kind of speaking around which doesn't work.
10:00 Thank you very much for the question.
12:30 Thank you very much for your attention and I hope to see you again soon. And then I'm swinging with the deck now to turn towards the other side of the room. So the deal would be very roughly that there are structural universals in Rebus.
15:00 Natural numbers, business numbers, and sets. See the remarks about the classical boundary components of a path-disconnected space, that numbers and sets have to be understood as structural universals in Rebus, but the stability conditions were guaranteeing the... So the ultimate, more metaphysically ultimate, intelligible structure of the Rebus, of the that in which the structure of which those universals are realized in virtue of the realization of stability conditions such as, for instance, uniform topological minima, etc., is itself something which holds in virtue of what the same stability conditions which as it were give rise to. Tim Lewis, who, for instance, concept forming and concept deploying software subsystems with, as it were, the suggestion is that there might be a structuration of media, for instance, in the event that the structural universals in Rebus, the conditions for the
17:30 The objective preconditions of the structural universals, or the structural universals in Rebus, corresponding to natural numbers in P.S. Simons' sense, were not realised in virtue of, for instance, the things being, the stability conditions breaking down, that there might be other ways of understanding, which, as it were, could be understood in terms of the conditions on the more fundamental, the metaphysical ultimate, the more fundamental level of unifying and intelligible. Structure, which the more ontologically basic category of process gets at, which is more, which is better characterized in terms of the ontologically basic, the more ontologically basic category of process and, for instance, the stability conditions in process, which itself could be identified with the realization of, in the actual structure, structural reactions. There is a picture on conditions on the system to which the isolation of, for instance, to which the stability conditions guarantee that the difference of metrics relative to which Cauchy sequences dot dot dot and the term topology are taken do give rise to dot dot dot or, for instance, more, perhaps more convincingly, the cause of the... The conditions on sections and fibres of maps, the mappings of sections and fibres of maps, All these terms are understood as, where mappings themselves understood as emanating from, as a notion, as something, as deriving from the structural space, the spatial structuration, from the structuration of that, the nature of which is got out by, in the monocategorical ontology of dynamical mass, by the...
20:00 You know, the intrinsic sort of activity of the whole movement or another character of that which is varying itself but in conformity with the, as it were, the inner principles of variation of which relative and local notions of constancy emerge which, as it were, pose the objective requirement of a parameterization of variation which, as it were, meet the objective requirement of parameterization of the variation which. As it were, it can be approximated or captured or modelled to within the limits of dot dot dot, within this local and relative constancy. The point is that the conditions on the sections of fibers of maps where the notion of mapping itself is thought of as emerging from And, for instance, the conditions on the sections of priors and maps are thought of as reflecting the structuration of the process, the structuration of the stability conditions to which the process, the content of the categorical process, the content of that being of which is so generous a subject, in this case the monocategorical ontology of process, or, say, the hollow movement. And the conditions on the sections of Fibers and Maps which are reflected in stability conditions, for instance, on classical objects, on stuff in the world as classical experience, give rise to, for instance, classical arithmetic. See the point about exponentiation collapsing to product in the case where... Quanta are out of superposition by a de Broglie or Quartier de Broglie wavelength. See the remarks in Finkelstein. See how that is to be understood as, yes, there's given all those two, as it were, different characteristics on the, of the concept, different characteristics of the mappings, different conditions on the sections and fibres of mappings. See the remark about the natural notion of quantum mapping, the natural notion of mapping for quantum objects, that remark in Finkelstein. Which indeed suggests that the notion of mapping, and even of one-to-one mapping, see the point about conditions and flexions of fibers and that arises as reflecting as it were that imposition of via stability conditions on the structure of that the being of which is so generous to the hollow movement which give rise to the fulfillment of the condition that there be closed and bounded components of a path that is connected to space.
22:30 Or even that the closed and bounded components of practice connected spaces will have the characteristic of that is. Reflected in the Conditions and Sections of Fibres are maps in the case of the points functor, the functorial description of increase in and decomposition of structure in the case where the points functor holds, namely that increase in and decomposition of structure is definable in general in terms of points by notion of point or element of a collection extension in bacula and absoluta, which of course reflects the fulfilment of that objective reading of that stability condition, which is thought of as arising from within the Structure of the world thought of as arising in virtue of the way that structure falls into place within further structure conceived of as the structure of that the most ontologically basic level of structure of which is that, as it were, disclosed in or yielding to, as it were, the notion of... Process of the character of the hollow movement.
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